IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG) REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE November 9th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Borman, David / Cray Research Crocker, Dave / TBO Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Knowles, Stev / FTP Software Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Crocker, Steve / TIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet AGENDA ------ 1) Administivia o Role Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of the Minutes - November 2nd o New Area Director Search Report 2) Protocol Actions o Token Ring MIB o Ident MIB o Ident o String Representation of Distinguished Name Technical Management Issues o ROAD Action Plan for Washington - ROAD Decision Plan - Presentation planning for Monday o Integration of the OSI Area. MINUTES ------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the minutes Minutes of November 2nd were approved. o New Area Director Report After talking with the several candidates proposed during the last IESG meeting to replace Noel Chiappa, Phil Gross, with the approval of the IESG, invited Stev Knowles to join the IESG. Steve Knowles accepted and was added to this teleconference. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and record his new position in the on-line information. 2) Protocol Actions o Token Ring MIB No action to report. o IDENT/ IDENT MIB No action to report. o String Representation of Distinguished Names The IESG has reviewed and has agreed to recommend "String Representation of Distinguished Names" as a Proposed Standard. (See note in appendix) ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the Internet Draft as a Proposed Standard. 3) Technical Management Issues. o Road Decision The IESG Road decision plan was published as RFC 1380. A second effort to expand and prioritize the decision criteria has been submitted as an Internet Draft, and a BOF to discuss these and the IESG criteria has been scheduled for the Washington DC IETF meeting. It has been pointed out that Network Operators and users have been under-represented in the selection criteria and that special attention may need to be given to those who's concerns may be diminished in the quest for technical solutions. The IESG plan calls for making a decision on an IPV7 candidate following the November IETF meeting. With at least two strong contenders that will satisfy the initial milestones, it is not clear that a single choice can be clearly made. The IESG considered several options, and agreed that the goal still remains to narrow the choice to a single candidate for IP Version 7 at some point after the plenary meeting. POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe. The IESG agreed to meet again November 10th to discussed possible criteria and milestones to be used in the event a choice is not possible at the November IETF meeting. ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th from 1-2 PM ET. o Monday ROAD Plenary Presentations. The IESG has been asked to re-allocate the time for IPv7 presentations at the next plenary. The TUBA proposal relies upon the understanding of CLNP, and time was requested for a review of the CLNP proposal. The time for the presentations was too tight to allow a new presentation. However, it was observed that the SIP and IPAE efforts have, to some extent, merged and may be able to combine their presentations. If this is possible, the presentation slots will become longer allowing some time in the TUBA presentation for CLNP. ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it. o IESG Re-Alignment The IESG discussed and initially accepted the proposal to integrate the OSI Working Groups into their natural areas. Dave Piscitello indicated that he was now willing to move to the Internet Area and assume responsibility for PDN and Large Network Issues as well as oversee the integration of OSI network layer protocols. After Steve Knowels indicated his willingness to serve as an Internet Area Director and joined the teleconference, he expressing a desire to not serve as part of a triumverate. With the immediate need of finding help for Philip Almquist and with little time to explore partial integration of the OSI Working Groups, the IESG reconsidered the OSI integration proposal and opted to delay action. Appendix -- Summary of Mailing List Discussions -------- o User Friendly Naming Steve Kent submitted a series of comments shortly after the teleconference, mostly pertaining to documentation style and clarification. In particular he has asked that an addition example be included and that a section describing an optional/ not recommended format be dropped from the document. This section was added to satisfy Christian Huitema who during this exchange agreed that it should be deleted. Dave Crocker raised a concern over Friendly Naming's use of comma as a separating, since it will cause difficulties for RFC822 parsers should the DN's be used in email addresses. Crocker was satisfied with an explanation of the Working Groups reasoning. ANTI-ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Do Not send a recommendation for the String Representation of Distinguished Name document. ACTION: Huizer -- Communicatate the comments received by the IESG to the OSIDS Working Group and encourage a new version of the String Representation of Distinguished Name document. Appendix -- Action Items -------- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Add Stev Knowles to the IESG mailing lists and record his new position in the on-line information. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the Internet Draft as a Proposed Standard. ACTION: Coya -- Schedule a teleconference for Tuesday November 10th from 1-2 PM ET. ACTION: Almquist -- Contact Steve Deering and ascertain whether the SIP and IPAE presentations can be merged. Further remind Deering of the requirement to publish an Internet Draft describing SIP by this Wednesday to retain his speaking slot should he decide to keep it. Appendix -- Positions Taken -------- POSITION: The IESG intends to bring about as much closure in the next IP decision as possible at the November 92 IETF meeting. While the goal is to choose one proposal, the IESG will not rush into an unfounded judgement in the face of the published timeframe.