INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the January 8, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Ned Freed / Sun Microsystems Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the December 18, 2003 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the December 18, 2003 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-pilc-link-design-15.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-pkix-proxy-10.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-msec-mikey-08.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-wdm-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ipv6-flow-label-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-sipping-mwi-04.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-dnsext-keyrr-key-signing-flag-12.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ccamp-lmp-test-sonet-sdh-04.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-geopriv-dhcp-lci-option-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-savola-bcp38-multihoming-update-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-sip-callee-caps-03.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-rmonmib-rmon-oid-assignments-01.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-sipping-aaa-req-04.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o The Secretariat to send a reminder to the IESG that the submission deadline for items to be included in preliminary package for the January 8, 2004 IESG Teleconference is 10:00am ET on January 2, 2004. The Secretariat will send the preliminary package at 12:00noon ET, January 2, 2004. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o Thomas Narten to write (or cause to be written) a draft on "how to get to Draft". o Thomas Narten to contact Cablelabs to discuss formal relationship with IAB. o Steve Bellovin to write RFC re: TCP MD5 option. o Bill Fenner to generate a description of policy about a) meetings using the network in conjunction with IETF meetings, and b) putting experiments on the network during the IETF meeting. o Steve Bellovin to initiate a discussion on the general ACL issue. o Thomas Narten and Ted Hardie to discuss IANA considerations. NEW: o Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF mailing lists. o Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement message for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG. o Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision on publishing draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp to the RFC Editor. o Joyce Reynolds to provide input from the RFC Editor about the RFC Editor's view of the IESG's role in review of RFC Editor submissions. 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-14.txt - 1 of 6 Policy Based Management MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004) by Margaret Wasserman. o draft-ietf-tls-compression-06.txt - 2 of 6 Transport Layer Security Protocol Compression Methods (Proposed Standard) Token: Steve Bellovin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ned Freed and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-disman-alarm-mib-17.txt - 3 of 6 Alarm MIB (Proposed Standard) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen on behalf of IANA.* o draft-ietf-krb-wg-crypto-06.txt - 4 of 6 Encryption and Checksum Specifications for Kerberos 5 (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-sip-content-indirect-mech-03.txt - 5 of 6 A Mechanism for Content Indirection in Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Messages (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Ted Hardie.* o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-agent-ipsec-01.txt - 6 of 6 Authentication of DHCP Relay Agent Options Using IPsec (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Russ Housley, Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.* 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-webdav-acl-13.txt - 1 of 3 WebDAV Access Control Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The -12 version of the document was approved at the 10/30/2003 IESG Teleconference. The authors revised the document to version -13 while in the RFC Editor Queue. The IESG requests that the RFC Editor process the -13 version of this document. The Secretariat will send a formal request to the RFC Editor. Ted Hardie will draft the text for the message. o draft-ietf-xmpp-core-21.txt - 2 of 3 Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Core (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-xmpp-im-20.txt - 3 of 3 Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Instant Messaging and Presence (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item o draft-kompella-rsvp-change-01.txt - 1 of 2 Procedures for Modifying RSVP (BCP) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Thomas Narten.* o draft-jones-avt-audio-t38-03.txt - 2 of 2 Real-Time Facsimile (T.38) - audio/t38 MIME Sub-type Registration (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Allison Mankin.* 2.2.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-ldapext-matchedval-07.txt - 1 of 1 Returning Matched Values with LDAPv3 (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ned Freed.* 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-l2vpn-l2-framework-03.txt - 1 of 3 L2VPN Framework (Informational RFC) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-rmt-bb-webrc-04.txt - 2 of 3 Wave and Equation Based Rate Control building block (Experimental RFC) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement o draft-ietf-msec-arch-04.txt - 3 of 3 The Multicast Security Architecture (Informational RFC) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Bert Wijnen.* 3.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-ipfix-reqs-13.txt - 1 of 2 Requirements for IP Flow Information Export (Informational RFC) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-ipv6-node-requirements-07.txt - 2 of 2 IPv6 Node Requirements (Informational RFC) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Russ Housley, Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.* 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-hoehn-nsdl-urn-namespace-01.txt - 1 of 2 A URN Namespace for NSDL (Informational RFC) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie on behalf of the IAB.* o draft-burger-sipping-netann-07.txt - 2 of 2 Basic Network Media Services with SIP (Informational RFC) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, and Russ Housley.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-hayashi-igap-03.txt - 1 of 2 Internet Group membership Authentication Protocol (IGAP) (Informational RFC) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document was deferred to the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004) by Russ Housley. o draft-claise-netflow-9-07.txt - 2 of 2 Cisco Systems NetFlow Services Export Version 9 (Informational RFC) Token: Bert Wijnen The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.* 3.3.2 Returning Item o draft-carroll-dynmobileip-cdma-03.txt - 1 of 1 Verizon Wireless Dynamic Mobile IP Key Update for cdma2000(R) Networks (Informational RFC) Token: Thomas Narten The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley and Bert Wijnen.* 3.3.3 To be assigned o draft-marshall-security-audit-08.txt Security Audit and Access Accountability Message XML Data Definitions for Healthcare Applications (Informational RFC) The document was assigned to Ned Freed. 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC (pki4ipsec) - 1 of 2 Token: Russ Housley The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004). o Routing Area Working Group (rtgwg) - 2 of 2 Token: Alex Zinin The IESG approved the draft working group charter for IETF review, pending revised text to be provided by Alex Zinin. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a copy to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval o Control And Provisioning of Wireless Access Points (capwap) - 1 of 1 Token: Bert Wijnen The charter for the new working group remains under discussion by the IESG. The Secretariat will place the charter for the working group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (01/22/2004) in the same category. 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review o MBONE Deployment (mboned) - 1 of 1 Token: Bert Wijnen The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group, pending revised text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement to include additional text to be provided by Bert Wijnen. 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 Extension of IETF protocols by other SDOs (Allison Mankin) This management issue was discussed. Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten will work on IETF vendor extensions draft. 7.2 Guidance for spam-control on IETF mailing lists (Steve Bellovin) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Steve Bellovin to write a revised version of the proposed revision of the IESG's guidelines for spam control on IETF mailing lists. 7.3 the IETF and anti-spam (Steve Bellovin) This management issue was discussed. 7.4 RFC Editor decision to publish draft-ogura-mapos-nsp-multiexp (Harald Alvestrand) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Harald Alvestrand to draft a note that the Secretariat will send to the RFC Editor, saying that the IESG is happy to leave the decision on publishing this document to the RFC Editor. 7.5 PROTO charter (Margaret Wasserman) This management issue was discussed. Action item: Allison Mankin and Margaret Wasserman to draft announcement message for PROTO Team to be discussed by the IESG. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.